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Dung and scene of crime
 
Question: On your website you state that Dung and his friends were obviously at the scene of Kait's murder. Did the police ever interview him or his friends about it? I did read that he was tested fro gun powder residue but not that he was interviewed or that he stated why he was at the scene of the shooting if he did not do it. Is it really possible that he would have been able to sleep to be woken at 3 AM when he "learned" of kait's shooting from the police? And why did the police suspect him to give him a gun powder residue check? What was his alibi for that night other than "he was out of the house becuase they fought"?

Ive read your book in 1989 and your site for years always hoping that this case is solved. I await the Tallykeeper but would much rather have a resolution than a book. I hope it comes soon for you. Its such a long time to not know and Kait's case affected me greatly which is why I come here freequently always hoping that this is solved.

Asked on Thursday, May 19, 2011 at 01:15:48 PM
Reply: Dung did not volunteer the information that he was at the scene, and police would not take a statement from the friend of Kait's who contacted them to say Dung called her about the shooting long before midnight. So, no, he was not questioned about this.

His alibi was that he and his two friends, An Quoc Le and Khanh Pham, were at a hangout with a pool table (can't remember the name right off, but I know they did hang out there, as Kait had mentioned it), and then went the the Firehouse Restaurant and Khanh Pham dropped Dung back at his/Kait's apartment at 10 p.m. Police made no effort to verify his presence at the pool hall. Det. Gallegos says he went to the Firehouse restaurant the following day and nobody there could verify the presence of three young Vietnamese men on the night of Kait's shooting. However, An Quoc Le and Khanh Pham stated they were there with Dung, and APD took their word for it. (An Quoc Le was the person in Albuquerque who solicited people to participate in the car wrecks in California, and Khanh Pham had the dorm room in which Dung was stabbed, alleged suicide attempt, following Kait's funeral.)

It's normal procedure for police to check out (1) the last person to see the victim alive and (2) the victim's "significant other" in that order. The last person to see Kait alive was Sharon Smith, and she told Det. Gallegos that Dung and Kait had been fighting. So it makes sense that when he (appropriately) went next to the apartment to interview Dung, he would search the apartment for weapons and do a primer residue test. He also read Dung his rights. At that point, he apparently considered Dung a suspect.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
Why no FBI investigation?
 
Question: I thought that crossing state lines in order to commit a crime would be a federal offense. If this is true, then why isn't the FBI investigating the trips to California for the car wrecks? It would be nice if you could rely on another law enforcement agency to investigate part of the case.

Asked on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 01:46:54 PM
Reply: You've HIT UPON THE CORE QUESTION INVOLVING FEDERAL INTERVENTION. Cross state lines in order to commit a felony IS INDEED A FEDERAL CRIME.

In addition, the FBI has federal jurisdiction in both automobile accident fraud schemes and Medicare fraud, as well as Vietnamese organized crime in the United States.

WHY HAVE THEY NOT UTILIZED THOSE AUTHORITIES TO DELVE INTO THIS???

The apparently sharp thinking and knowledgeable person who posted down a way, suggesting this goes MUCH HIGHER than the local level might want to give us his thoughts about this. I hope he does.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
APD JOHN B. GALLEGOS???
 
Question: This post is from Lois, Kait's mother, and it may be too long to post as a question, so I'll post it down below in the form of a response. (I'm permitted more space down there.)

Asked on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 02:55:30 PM
Reply: QUESTION FROM Kaitís mom:

Does anyone know anything about John B. Gallegos, (with APD at the time of Kait's murder)?

He was a friend of one of Kaitís neighbors at her apartment complex.

Answered by: Kait
 
manager at pier 1
 
Question: I hope someone looked into the manager at pier 1 who promoted Kait and then hired a sno cone girl to take her job...that was either the poorest run pier 1 ever or that manager knew what was going on.

Asked on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 01:04:19 PM
Reply: The manager who promoted Kait to that position was fired soon after Kait's co-worker turned the heroin over to the FBI. She was replaced by a man from the main office. Kait was shot a couple of weeks later.

Our P.I. has talked to the manager who was fired. She said she was stunned when she was fired, did not see it coming, and doesn't know what caused it to happen. Said she knew nothing about any drug importation. Said Kait was "a doll and a joy to work with."

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
Vietnamese
 
Question: The Vietnamese excel at shakedowns of other Vietnamese, car scams/thefts, drugs and MURDER FOE HIRE.
They more often than not are hired out by triads or yakuza for hits so that it can't be traced back to them. They don't typically bring guns to the fight-so that is strange. And considering two calibers were used stranger still. The slashings are for causing pain/trouble for the" family ".
Vietnamese gangs in Albuquerque are obviously under the auspices of local law enforcement and they are kowtowing to another authority which is probably higher up Asian gangs.
Even the notion of the Vietnamese "running" Albuquerque is silly...its much higher than that. And yes I bet Kait did have the misfortune of being an outsider and witnessing too much and. the further misfortune of being from a solid
family with a solid reputation in the community...otherwise she would have just been slashed like some of the others. Breaking up with Dung probably was the fatal blow...but it's unlikely the Vietnamese ordered that hit-it goes way up beyond those thugs. No way would APD investigate the viets-it would simply circle right back to them

Asked on Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 03:14:20 PM
Reply: These are very interesting observations and I appreciate your insights. Please, clarify so I can be sure I understand you correctly.

Are you saying there was a conspiracy between several groups of people? The Vietnamese did the slashings, and somebody else did the shooting?

Why would an APD investigation of the Vietnamese "cycle right back" to APD? Was some third party in a high position controlling both APD and the Vietnamese? If so, can you speculate as to who that individual might have been?

Answered by: Kait
 
Pier One
 
Question: This sounds farfetched and terrible, but have you ever considered the idea that Dung deliberately cultivated a relationship with Kait so that she and her place of employment could be more easily used for the heroin shipments coming from Asia? What I mean is, if she had worked at McDonald's, for example, she would not have been useful - - McDonald's does not receive shipments from Asia. Dung did not hook up with Kait and she just happened to work for Pier One.

I think Dung made a point of meeting Kait at the coffee shop she frequented in order to establish a friendship with her. He was connected to a major crime organization, and a machine like that plans ahead and uses unsuspecting people all the time.

Asked on Saturday, May 14, 2011 at 10:39:04 PM
Reply: You may be onto something, but if so, I think it probably happened the other way around and you're putting the cart before the horse. Dung started dating Kait a year and a half before the heroin incident occurred, and at that time she was working at Pier One only on weekends. I think he was dating her for the right reasons at that time.

Then, in 1989, she graduated and got her own apartment, Dung moved in with her, and she was promoted to manager of imported clothing and began working at the store fulltime. That gave Dung and his friends an excuse to hang out at Pier One every day in order to "visit Kait." Since she was unpacking boxes of clothing from Asia and recording the contents, that put her in a very useful position for them and could have sparked a sudden inspiration: "Hey, let's use her to retrieve heroin shipments! She'll do that if Dung insists on it. Women (in Vietnam) always do what their man tells them to do." (If you've read WHO KILLED MY DAUGHTER, you'll find Kait repeated that statement to me the night she was shot.)

This would have been a perfect plan. Except that Kait was not a Vietnamese woman and did NOT do what men told her just because they were men. She also was not as much under Dung's thumb as he thought she was, because she was seeing Rod on the side.

Answered by: Kait
 
Timeline
 
Question: I'm wondering about the timeline between when the shipment of drugs was found at Pier One and when Kaitlyn first went with Dung to LA for a staged car wreck. Is it possible that she was asked to participate in the car wreck as a way for Dung to have something to hold over her head? It seems logical that she would have known about the drugs being found and likely would have told Dung and possibly other friends like Susan. If she had participated in an illegal activity, Dung could then try convince her not to talk to law enforcement about any future drug shipments based on the idea that she had already committed a crime and her activities might be investigated. Apologies if this has already been raised; I haven't read through the entire message board.

And, Ms. Duncan, I have to say that you have been one of my favorite writers for as long as I can remember. I have worn out paperback copies of most of your books and although Who Killed My Daughter is riveting, it was heartbreaking to learn about your loss. I wish blessings and peace to you.

Asked on Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 11:30:56 AM
Reply: According to Kait's girlfriends, Dung staged a car wreck in California in August, 1988. Kait learned about that and was upset about it, but she thought it was a one time thing. She went to California with Dung during spring break of her senior year of high school and witnessed him stage a car wreck on March 28, 1989. Kait was not in the car with him and, according to her girlfriends, was very upset with him about it. She wanted him to 'clean up his act."

About two months later she finished high school and rented her own apartment. She let Dung move in with her. The co-worker of Kait's who found the heroin in a package in the store room and turned it over to the FBI did so the end of June. She says she did not tell Kait or anyone else at Pier One about finding the heroin and does not believe Kait knew about the heroin shipments at that time.

But I believe she must have found out and possibly was ordered by Dung to collaborate by helping intercept the shipments. She must have refused to do that, because two weeks later she announced she was breaking up with Dung and demanded that he move out of her apartment. She was chased down and shot that same night.

We can only speculate about what went on behind the scenes. I do know that Kait didn't do drugs and was very much against them, so I'd be very surprised to learn that she was involved in or supportive of drug smuggling through her workplace.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
Matt Griffin
 
Question: Do you have any info on him? Where was he from, where did he go to school and had he been a sociopath his entire life?

Asked on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 04:58:18 PM
Reply: Matt Griffin grew up in Albuquerque and graduated from Eldorado High School. He apparently had no record of misconduct as a kid.

However, during his five year career as a police officer, Griffin appears to have been protected from suffering the consequences of a number of instances of blatant misconduct:

On Thanksgiving Day, 1984, Griffin forced his way into a trailer and sprayed a woman in the eyes with mace.

In Oct., 1986, Griffin responded to a report about loud noise by physically attacking the man who answered the door. The man was hospitalized with head injuries and sued the City of Albuquerque. (The city settled out of court for $35,000.)

Griffin also beat up a guest in that same home. That guest sued the City of Albuquerque. (The city settled out of court for $12,000.)

In March, 1987, Griffin refused to help two other police officers locate the suspect of a drug related murder, because Griffin was moonlighting as assistant manager of the apartment complex where that suspect lived. (He was punished for this act of insubordination by one day's suspension.)

In Aug., 1987, Griffin refused to return a $75 witness fee he owed a blind man when his appearance in court was canceled. (For this he was fired, but Police chief Sam Baca immediately rehired him when he threatened to sue APD for "harm to his professional reputation.") The blind man was quoted as saying, "It was unbelievable ... It seemed like somebody at the top pulled a lever and got him off!"

Between July and Aug., 1988, a 9mm Glock semiautomatic handgun disappeared from the evidence room while Griffin was guarding it. When ordered to take a lie detector test about the missing weapon, he refused to do so. (He was punished for this act of insubordination by five days suspension.)

In January, 1989, Griffin shot Peter Klunck twice in the back, claiming self-defense. Chief Sam Baca stated that the police Internal Affairs investigation showed that the Klunck shooting was justified. What Chief Justice Rheardon actually said in his report was, "I believe there is a question about whether Mr. Klunck was armed at the time he was shot and, even if he was, whether it was necessary to shoot him."

7/11/89 Matt Griffin killed a man named Michael Howard who caught him hot-wiriing a car. He was arrested exactly one week before Kait was shot and was subsequently exposed as "The Ninja Bandit" who stole cars to use as getaway cars when he committed bank robberies.

He's currently serving a life term in prison for multiple bank robberies and murder of a witness.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
post about officer wallace
 
Question: Are you saying Kait was cozy with dirty cops or officer Wallace was cozy with dirty cops?
Do you mean something is weird about Kait or officer Wallace? Do you/did you know either of them?

Asked on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 01:48:18 AM
Reply: The subject line of the post below says "Officer Wallace," so I'm sure that's who the poster meant.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
Officer Wallace
 
Question: Was she cozy with any of the dirty cops on the ABQ force? If so, isn't it possible she could have been involved in or known of their activities?

Something about her doesn't feel right, never has.

Asked on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 01:23:20 AM
Reply: From what Officer Wallace, herself, told our private investigator, as well as from what we've been told by other people, she not only was "cozy" with a number of her fellow officers, but was a good friend of the undercover narc, Chris A. Padilla, the brother of Paul Apodaca's drug dealer, Lee Padilla. She told our P.I. she "did favors" for him. (This is not the same Chris Padilla who was a supervisor on Kait's case.)

Several people have also told us she "hung out in the area," which suggests she may have "hung out" at the auto body shop at 824 Arno. I don't know where else there was in the area to 'hang out." There weren't any bars or nightclubs or coffee shops there, just used car lots, auto body shops, etc.

If she was in the habit of "hanging out in the area," that would explain why she got to Kait's scene 40 seconds after being dispatched. Her explanation was that she was "in the area" when she was dispatched.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
My thoughts
 
Question: I think that the person who wrote the " she's murdered get over it " message is completely out of line. That is the most meanest thing I've ever heard on a memorial message board. People have to remember that Kait was a person, who yes made mistakes, but in all fairness every person makes mistakes. Lois and the rest of her family have every right to want and deserve the chance to bring Kait's killers to justice. I truly hope that one day the Duncan family get some answers on what occurred on the night of Kait's death.

Asked on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 at 08:15:33 PM
Reply: Thank you for your support.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
after so much time why does it matter?
 
Question: She's murdered. Get over it.

Why does it still matter who killed her since she's dead and has been dead for a long time you can't bring her back?

Asked on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 at 03:33:08 PM
Reply: DOES IT MATTER THAT WE FINALLY GOT BIN LADEN AFTER SO MANY YEARS? THE PEOPLE KILLED ON 9/11 ARE DEAD AND WE CAN'T BRING THEM BACK.

But a lot of people all over the world obviously think it DID matter. The families of the victims can finally begin to heal. The gaping wounds will be allowed to slowly close over, despite the fact that scars remain.

If the people in our country reach the point of believing that closure and justice do not matter, then our country itself doesn't matter. "The only thing that is necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing."

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
wounds
 
Question: Was it determined if the wounds in Kaits head were gunshot wounds or could they have been shrapnel?

Asked on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 at 09:01:08 AM
Reply: The Medical Examiner's report said the holes in her head were bullet holes.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
suspects
 
Question: What is the possibility of just filing a suit against these people who know what happened but are not talking? Even if Apd won't get involved have you talked to your attorney about some civil action and calling these people to testify? Dung, Sharon, Paul,the rest of the Viets, merriman, etc..
Every last one of these foul, lying creatures.

Asked on Monday, May 09, 2011 at 09:58:28 AM
Reply: I won't go into detail here -- it's too lengthy and too upsetting -- but we are told "That's not the way the system works."

We can't sue somebody for murder without evidence that they actually killed Kait, and we don't have evidence that any one of those people pulled the trigger. And we can't sue people for lying. That's unethical, but not criminal. Det. Steve Gallegos told us himself, "Of course, they all lied. Lawyers lie. Everybody lies."

Answered by: Kait
 
Officer Wallace?
 
Question: If Officer Wallace was "in the area," could she have been the cop the wedding party saw standing next to Kait's car?

Asked on Sunday, May 08, 2011 at 11:53:40 AM
Reply: We hadn't thought of that possibility. But it isn't impossible. The wedding party assumed the uniformed cop was a male, but that's what they would have been expecting to see, and in was dark, and male and female cops dress the same. If the cop's head was turned away, they wouldn't have seen the face.

We do know it couldn't have been Det. Merriman, since he was in plain clothes and driving an unmarked car.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
Time
 
Question: What time did the husband report hearing shots and then sirens? What time was it when the wedding party drove by and witnessed the scene? When did Merriman supposedly drive past and then when did Wallace arrive?

Asked on Sunday, May 08, 2011 at 09:50:01 AM
Reply: It's been impossible for us to form an accurate timeline because so many formal statements are in conflict and the witnesses didn't take notes of exact times.

For instance, the wedding party left the restaurant "close to 11 p.m., because they were getting ready to close," and drove past Kait's car, seeing a cop car there and a uniformed cop..

The witness who heard the shots, saw the VW bug flee the scene, and saw Kait's car against the pole but no other cars or people, did not make note of the precise time he saw that. However, the cop car that the wedding party saw does not seem to have been there. (It's not impossible that Det. Merriman may have been there, since he was in an unmarked car that the witness may not have noticed if it wasn't parked next to Kait's car, and Paul A could have been standing out of sight on the other side of Kait's car.

Det. Merriman must have stumbled on the scene immediately, since when he first caught sight of the scene he saw Kait's car and the VW Bug. By the time he performed a u-turn and drove back to investigate, the VW bug was gone (possibly on its way up the street to pull into the parking lot next door to the witnesses house?), but Paul Apodaca was there. Merriman's report gives his arrival time as 2300 hours, but that probably approximate since he wasn't formally dispatched. He called in "an accident with no injuries."

Off. Wallace was dispatched at 2302 and arrived within 40 seconds. She later explained she was "In the area." She clearly recalls seeing Paul Apodaca there and going with him and Det. Merriman to look in Kait's car and see Kait lying there bleeding and moaning. However Paul A. denies ever seeing Off. Wallace and said he drove off in his VW bug before she got there, haviing seen only Merriman.

Albq. Ambulance arrived at the scene first and found nobody there -- no cops, no Paul Apodaca, just Kait in her car, and began to remove her from the car.

The Fire Dept. Rescue unit was dispatched at 2303, arrived at 2306, in time to help the original medics load Kait into the Albq. Ambulance vehicle. (There's no record of why they were dispatched -- no indication that they were called by APD. Albq. Ambulance may have called them. Nobody is on record as having called rescue units.) They, too, report seeing no cops or by-standers, although cops began to arrive as Albuquerque Ambulance pulled away with Kait.

The medics are the ones who noticed the bullet shattered car window, the bullet hole in the door frame, and the defects in Kait's head and branded the case a shooting. An APD supervisor was requested at 2315. Wallace says she called the supervisor. Merriman says he's the one who called the supervisor. The supervisor has no recollection of Wallace contacting her or of talking to her at the scene.

Kait's girlfriend says Dung called her, hysterically babbling, "Kait's dead! They shot Kait!" between 10:30 and 11 p.m., because she and her husband had just fiinished watching the news and were getting ready for bed. Police went to Kait/Dung's apt. and "woke Dung up" to tell him about the shooting at 3000.

And on and on it goes with one story conflicting with another. There's not a single concrete fact other than the times when the supervisor was dispatched and the times the rescue units arrived that we can be sure of.



Answered by: Kait
 
shots
 
Question: Did the husband call police? Did he hear any more shots that night?

Asked on Saturday, May 07, 2011 at 04:37:48 PM
Reply: He recalls hearing 4 "very loud" shots in quick succession. The volume of the shots (if they did, indeed, come from a 22), would imply that they were NOT fired back at John Street, as APD has stated, but were fired at the corner of Arno and Lomas where Kait ended up. The husband ran outside, which was when he saw the a VW bug with at least 2 people in it, one the driver and the other in the passenger's seat, race up the street, pull into the lot next door, turn off their lights, hang there a minute, and then drive slowly back down the street in the direction from which they had come, running the stop sign at Arno and Lomas and turning right (to the west).

The husband ran toward the corner. He did not see any other cars other than Kait's against the pole and did not see any people. He returned to his house to tell his wife about the event. He did not call the police, because they had no phone.

A few minutes later they heard the sound of sirens.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
cars
 
Question: How many cars did the wedding party see at the crash site?
In what time of succession did witnesses report hearing gunfire? Two rapid bursts followed by two more or four in quick succession? The former I would suspect.
When Pat interviewed Paul in jail did she ever get any type of explanation as to how his car drove off by itself or did his aggressive response to that line of questioning cause her to back off the subject of the VW?


Asked on Saturday, May 07, 2011 at 03:52:25 PM
Reply: The wedding guest saw two cars -- the red car up against a pole and a police car.

The witness heard 4 shots in quick succession.

Paul Apodaca became aggravated when asked who was with him in his VW bug. He said nobody was with him. He said, when he left the scene, he drove the VW away himself.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
a question
 
Question: The witnesses who reported the actions of the VW did they also report seeing Kaits wrecked car?

Asked on Saturday, May 07, 2011 at 03:23:59 PM
Reply: Yes. They were in bed and heard shots coming from Lomas, half a block south. The husband jumped up, looked out the window, and saw a VW bug race up their street, pull into the lot next door, pause, turn off their headlights, and pull back onto the street to drive back in the direction from which they came. He ran outside and partway down the street and saw Kait's car against the pole, but did not take in much more than that.

Answered by: Kait's Mom
 
TO THE POSTER OF THE ORIGINAL "WITNESS" POST
 
Question: THIS IS FROM KAIT'S MOTHER.

I hope you will continue posting, as I like the logical way you think and are able to put disjointed pieces together to form a picture. We totally missed the significance of the direction the cop standing next to Kait's car was facing. But you're right -- why would he look to the West other than to hide his face?

You also seem to have a lot of knowledge about firearms.

I hope you're a cop, but even if you're not, please continue to post your thoughts. They generate the thoughts of others.

Asked on Saturday, May 07, 2011 at 03:01:01 PM

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