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Yeah, right
Question: And OJ is still looking for the killers, too.
Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 10:52:19 AM

One, two and three
Question: Listen.

1) Tom Stump could have been murdered.

2) Tom Stump could have committed suicide.

3) Tom Stump could be alive and living elsewhere.

It could have been a murder for hire that is one possibility. That would come under murder. Tom was involved in drugs and had contacts that he could have been on the bad side of. He also had a wife who was messing around on him and was 1st in line to get 100 percent of his estate. The boyfriend and Tom were enemies because of their prior years infidelity's.

You seem to forget that the documents by the authorities have 3 conclusions not just yours.

And you seem to overlook the death certificate says 'probable suicide', not suicide.

Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 10:50:29 AM

Help me with this
Question: I'm having trouble following the Stump conspiracy theory...

How do you make the leap from "left in the car" to "murder"?
Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 10:08:01 AM

Good to see you admit your mistakes
Question: So you admit that Sally never said Tom "left in a car."

"A" car is much different than "the" car.

"a car" indicates that it is likely someone else's car, or an unknown car.

"the car" indicates that it was the family car, a known car, not some mystery vehicle that the conspiracy theorists would have us believe.

And "the" family car was not missing, so obviously Tom did not take it.

Sally may have been referring to Tom doing some errands that morning.

Regardless, it is good to see that you have realized the error of your ways and have retracted your statements. It's a start.
Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 10:05:11 AM

Det Jan Penley July 28, 1995 documents
Question: ST: and he said bye
and he said don't come back
and he GOT IN THE CAR
and he LEFT
and he NEVER CAME BACK

and the following was exactly what I said...

now the detective says

JP: does he go in the woods a lot?

Why didn't she ask what color car? Daddy's car? Did he get in THE car with anyone?

I see her that you are telling half truths as you do with all your lies.
I see that you want to argue the word "the" against "a"
Your point is invalid simply because HE GOT IN THE CAR, CAR, CAR,
AND HE LEFT, LEFT, LEFT
AND HE never came back

HE GOT IN A CAR OR THE CAR -- HE GOT INTO A VEHICLE!

Now would you like to give us the morphed version?
Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 09:52:25 AM

Fact-checking
Question: Sally never said Tom "left in a car."

Look it up if you don't believe me.
Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 06:30:45 AM

part 1
Question: Someone other than DTL did the "A dose of reality" so now we have a VPDTL...There is evidence of a missing man with mysterious reasons. The only one who said that Tom said he would kill himself is a wife that wanted a divorce and had a lover. We believe Sally. She said he left in a car. She isn't a liar, and the detective fumbles that clue. We believe Bonnie. But we believe Tom could have very well been knowing that Becker (as he ultimately did) was going to come in and remove all family members that were not his own. (then Bernie tells Rose that the Stumps were better to the girls than the Becker's and yes there is proof of that too) No one would like to believe that their son committed suicide. If the true evidence came to light then Rose could and would ultimately except what came her way. She has many friends and family that has gotten her through hard times and would flurry around her in the case remains were found. But you better believe that her lawyer would definitely be involved in whom did this autopsy and or be present at the time of it. We do in fact respect all three conclusions of the detectives. The judge did what she did for one reason. To allow people to move forward after many years.

Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 05:49:02 AM

part 2
Question: But you must also remember the death certificate only shows probable...and nothing 100 percent positive. Tom could very well be alive and there is that good possibility that he was murdered. His wife and lover stood to accept much and eventually did just that correct? The polygraph. Well it isn't admissible and many murderers have passes and ultimately found to be very, very guilty. It helps to say that since a felon was contacted just prior to it and knowing full and well that there are tapes out on how to pass a polygraph and the fact that the questions themselves are very important only proves that the polygraph examiner was indeed a friend of Becker's. Let's do another on all three and ask appropriate questions and see.
And yes, the Becker's. Well VPDTL Bonnie, Sally and Mrs. Thomas Stump did not have the Becker name or stance at that time. Nor were they when Bill Becker moved into Tom Stump's home to rule. They are now morphed and Becker's and lost to the love that Tom Stump gave. The cesspit they live in probably has a hidden shadow haunting.

Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 05:48:07 AM

A dose of reality
Question: You can't find any evidence of a crime --so you make it up.

You don't like the testimony of the eyewitnesses --so you call them liars.

You desperately want to believe that Tom could not have committed suicide --so you say he was murdered

You don't like the detectives' conclusions --so you call them incompetent

You don't like the results of the polygraphs --so you call them unreliable

You don't like the court ruling it suicide --so you call the judge uninformed

You don't like that the Beckers have moved on to successful, productive lives --so you try to pull them down into your stinking cesspit of innuendo and negativity

Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 03:38:30 AM

computer
Question: In one of the reports it was stated that Stump and his youngest daughter played some games on the computer. On the crime shows the detectives always check the computers for evidence. Did the Monroe County sheriff's dept. check the Stump computer?
Asked on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 02:33:40 AM

Can anyone respond?
Question: Can anyone say why there was no coverage of any kind for 1 month when this man disappeared?

At the time it was not know if Tom Stump was alive or dead so why was this kept a secret?

Can anyone answer this?

Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 06:02:04 PM

Who has the gun?
Question: "Bernie also owned a .380 caliber pistol"

Where is this gun?

Didn't Bernie also own her own Colt? Is this the one?

Why didn't Bernie sell that gun to the gun she sold the other to?

Did the detectives ever take the above gun from the house? If not, why?
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 03:05:27 PM

All documented....
Question: You wish they weren't true but in fact they are.

Bernie did offer Manny money to search the woods but he refused her.
Bernie did in fact (per Mark Ripin's mouth) pay him "BIG MONEY" to sit in the woods.
Bernie and Bill was having a "relationship AT THE TIME of Tom Stump's disappearance.
As well as Bernie's best friend admitting that they never stopped all those years.
The dog did indeed go into the woods and not into the woods.
The detectives refused to give the copy of the phone records after repeated requests.
When Sally said her daddy left in a car the next question by the detective was he (Tom)
likes to walk in the woods right?
It is documented that Bernie drove down a dirt road with her two friends saying that Tom's body
could never be found.
Bernie did not call the cops for 4 hours to tell them Tom took a gun and was going to kill himself.
The video that was at the dump -- mysteriously is missing for that day.
Did the detectives talk to any of Bill Becker's neighbors about the affair? NO.
Becker was the 1st phone call documents in the papers.
Bernie never did a person search except for the bogus ride with Bonnie.

So where is all the lies. There isn't one. YOU KNOW IT AND WE KNOW IT.
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 02:58:27 PM

falsehoods
Question: All of the points you make are false. They are all made up on this board. There is not a shred of truth to any of them. If there were, the investigators would have found something. But there was nothing. Sorry to disappoint you
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 01:59:59 PM

What was so important to find in those woods?
Question: Why do you have to talk to me? What is so important that you have to hear my voice to answer the questions? What are you afraid of? Why won't you answer?

none of us know who you are if you give the real crimes you info we might.

The investigators had to talk to them.

Actually they should have talked to Bernie's friends and not ignore any and all way to find the truth.

All below and more ignored:

Like the affair?
Like the fact that the dog didn't go into the woods?
The request that Rose wants the phone records.
Continuing Sally's talk about leaving in a car.
Giving depositions the two friends Bernie drove down the road that had nothing to do with the woods telling them that Tom could never be found in those woods.
It's interesting how video's disappear. One when Bernie's friend dumped Tom's clothes and....
Talking to Becker's neighbors about Bernie's car being there while married to Tom.
4 hours of not calling cops.
Why Becker was called first instead of the cops.
Why Bernie didn't bother 1 time to look for Tom.
Why Mark Ripin was sitting in the very woods that Tom was supposed to have killed himself.
Talk to Manny to see what Bernie wanted him to look for in the woods.

Bernie WAS DESPERATE for someone to go into those woods. What did Tom hide that she knew about and needed and wanted desperately to pay 'BIG MONEY' to Manny P. (Hunter) or Mark Ripin to get it?
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 01:47:39 PM

Questions?
Question: If you have questions for the Beckers why don't you call them and ask.
That's what the investigators did, concluding that the Beckers have been eliminated as possible suspects.
If you called and asked, you would probably come to the same conclusion.

But you'd rather write anonymous comments on an obscure message board.
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 12:53:35 PM

comment
Question: We don't ignore the comments to Bonnie we just don't take them in the same context as you do.

The authorities don't have a case to prosecute Bernie because there is not enough circumstantial evidence.
There is no body and no tests were taken at the house to see if anything happened.
The dog went to the road not the woods.

We aren't looking for "giant rewards", we on the other hand are not money or control hungry. We just want answers and to know what really happened to Tom.

There is a case in Orlando Florida that portrays the mother as narcissistic and the similarities are too familiar as to Bernie's demeanor. She partied, never cried and seemed as if she could care less about her missing family member. It's astonishing how many are out there with this disease.
No posters, no calling authorties etc.

Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 12:20:18 PM

Stupid questions
Question: If you have uncovered lies told by the beckers you owe your soul the dignity of calling the authorities and alert them to the lies. The crimestopper program in our county will pay you a giant reward if they catch a murderer. Do you have any personal dignity? Why not get off this gossip rag and call someone with your great cybersleuthing? We are all tired of hearing about the discrepancies and lies. Put your money where your mouth is.

Of course the reason you are petrified to call anyone is you know as well as I do there are no lies. Not even real discrepancies.

How could tom of known of his disappearance before it happened, unless of course tom was leaving to carry out his cowardly suicide as told to polygraphed bernie hours before. How can you just pretend that tom's statements to bonnie and bernie didnt happen......you just ignore what you want to and invent your own fake clues. Go grab a phone and call someone. But that would require you to actually interact with a human being, instead of your computer.
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 12:07:36 PM

Answer
Question:
We wouldn't have to be repetitive if you and your masters would answer the questions.
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 11:40:38 AM

Please spare us your repetitive bullsh*t
Question: The same ole crap on here. A neverending stream of cyber-puppets so gullible as to believe rose's version of this blatant suicide. Puppets to dumb to wonder how all those agencies and private investigators rose hired cant find a crime here at all.

Tom's statement to bonnie completely removes foul play as a possibility. It is the absolute end-all of all rational ( what is that??) thought on foul play. He tells bonnie two different ways, he will never be seen again. They just pretend it didnt happen, yet we have an eyewitness just like when tom told bernie he would kill himself- polygraphed eyewitness.

Overwhelming EVIDENCE ( circumstantial) that tom did exactly what he had threatened just HOURS before.

Goodbye cyberpuppets.
Asked on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 at 09:38:43 AM

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