Question: If Rose Stump was so convinced that Tom would never commit suicide, why didn't she contest the judge's finding that Tom DID commit suicide? Surely she was notified of the proceedings all along the way. When Scott Haskell (Tom's business partner) petitioned the court to have Tom declared dead, why did Rose say nothing? Could it be that she WAS aware of the truth, but it did not fit in with her concocted scenario. More likely, she decided to say nothing because she had nothing to say --- not one shred of evidence that Tom did anything except walk away of his own free will and commit suicide.
The lack of an answer to this question leads to the inevitable conclusion that Rose Stump has no interest in the truth of Tom's suicide. Her sole intent is obviously to avenge Tom's death by attacking an innocent family. Asked on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 06:32:26 AM | | | | Tom vowed he would never be found |  | | Question: Here's what the wife of Tom's partner told detectives:
"When asked what she thought happened to Stump, she said she thought Tom had killed himself. She said her brother (Pat Cannon) had told her about a conversation he had once with Stump several years prior to the disappearance. They talked about how they would kill themselves if they ever did it. STUMP HAD SAID HE WOULD CRAWL DOWN INTO SOME MANGROVES AND SHOOT HIMSELF, THAT WAY HE WOULD NOT BE FOUND. He had further said that the fish would eat him."
When questioned by detectives Cannon responded by saying that they weren't necessarily talking about suicide, just about hiding a body....presumably someone they would murder, and not want the body found. How nice. People who talk like that are capable of ANYTHING. Asked on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 06:30:32 AM | | | | the Champaign | | | Question: The person who wrote the post titled ANSWER says, "You know if you are a social drinker and go through a tragedy like this, most people would be having a drink to get to sleep or just pass the time" and says Bernies friend Dee drank the champaign. Yet Bill Becker posted earlier that a member of the SEARCH PARTY drank the champaign.
Seems odd to me that a man whose searching for a dead body raids his refrigerator for liquor. But thats what Bill says and we all know Bill never lies. Or does he?
You people should get your stories in sync. No wonder so many people think your covering something up. Asked on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 04:33:15 AM | | | | Homicide | | | | Question: Homicide detectives are ALWAYS called in for cases involving missing persons and possible suicide. It's just standard police work. And they concluded correctly that Tom left of his own free will. No evidence of a struggle. No bloodshed. No foul play. No crime committed. Asked on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 03:15:31 AM | | | | investigation | | | Question: Det. Jan Penley was one of the original investigators in this case. SHE
called in HOMICIDE when she surmissed something was amiss. Asked on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 02:21:45 AM | | | | Now we have a new person where is she now? | | | Question: But really the Stump side isn't lying at all. Was not Bernie and Dee sitting in the bathing suits by the pool waiting for all the searchers to come back from the woods? Where were the kids? If they were going to bring a body that was shot up they she would be there to witness it. Why didn't she go on vacations while all this was going on so that here kids would have no part of any of it. You bet you bottom that if a body came out of those woods, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE RADIO SHOW.
The "knowledge" you talk about can be explained by Bill Becker being Bonnie natural father. Tom knew then it was a total lost cause. With him smoking pot, well Sally would eventually hate him anyway. Bernie talking in front of kids wasn't the smartest thing to do. P. S. This is part of the problem man, you call this a game, to you it is, to us it's never been a game. HE is a missing person.
I can read. The documents of the court show differences. Can deny that.
What has a person named Dee have to do with anything. What does her drinking one bottle of champagne have to do with the several bottles that two, not one, two people saw in her garbage. You weren't there and they were. How can you dispute it?
The "sick and disgusting" part of all this is that the Stumps has done nothing but try to find out what really happened that fatal morning. And if Bill Becker wasn't front and center MOST of this would have never come about. You say let sleeping dogs lie? They do and their names are Becker's.
Asked on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 01:55:56 PM | | | | Lets do another | | | Question: Supposed strange behavior: She drove her firends down a dirt road. You are right, she did. Bernie says- she was showing them how dense the vegetation was back there. Why 26 searchers were only able to cover a 1.5x 1.5 mile area. How easy it would be to walk off acouple of miles and hide real good and then kill yourself. Noone would have any reason to not believe that.
Of course, unless you have bought into all the lies that start off the website. You feel very sorry for the elderly lady who lost her son. I feel for her too. Bernie does have a drug past, a couple of ex's- sure she must be dirty. It is quite easy to fall into roseis's little trap. The police who investigated this to death and then did it again a few years later looked at the real facts, not the lies and exaggerations that start the website, they cant find a hint of a crime here. Asked on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 01:18:32 PM | | | | The bottom line | | | Question: The last words tom spoke, moments before leaving, was a very clear and concise farewell to bonnie. Tom has absolute knowledge of his disappearance before it ever happened. How can any sane person think he was murdered. He either relocated or followed through on his threat of suicide , made just hours before, to his wife bernie who was polygraphed.
That is it guys. Game over. Absolutely no chance of murder here. Asked on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 01:02:24 PM | | | | Cont...... | | | Question:
You really have to ask yourself if all this partying was going on wouldnt the cops think something was wrong? they were there everyday following the disappearance. Do you see how rose has twisted the facts around to make a monster out of bernie. Reprinting the kew west newspaper article and omitting the parts she didnt like- that is just lying. Rewriting parts of it. Why -So when innocent people like you read the case beginning- you become emotional and side with rose- If any two of those discrepancies were right bernie would be in jail. Asked on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 12:57:30 PM | | | | Answer | | | Question: Most of the supposed strange behavior never happened. For instance, Bernie wasnt emotional about the whole disappearance, That is ludacris. I never did not see bernie crying. Rose would have you believe bernie was partying by the pool the whole time. Reality- we did not want her with us during the search. We were afraid of actually finding a body and thought she shouldnt be there. We also had 25 men and sheri golden, a full ironman triathlete. We didnt need bernie or want her helping us on the search. Rose, however, has chosen to change that into she sat by the pool partying with her friends.
Lets do another- Bernie had a champaign and black balloon party by the pool with her friends right after tom left. Someone snooping through their garbage supposedly saw the remnants. Reality- Bernie\'s close friend dee only drank champaign. There was one bottle empty in the garbage- who knows where the black balloons came from- but there was probobly some type of black paper there. Rose chooses to make up a story about partying by the pool. You know if you are a social drinker and go through a tragedy like this, most people would be having a drink to get to sleep or just pass the time. It is really sick and discussting that rose would call that partying by the pool with her friends.
Asked on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 12:57:04 PM | | | | I wonder | | | Question: If the wife wasn't guilty, why did she act the way she did?
She told the people at the car rental place that the husband drowned in the ocean. Why didn't she tell them he walked into the woods, or why was it necessary to tell them anything. But she made up this big lie.
WHY????? Asked on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 11:35:39 AM | | | | comment | | | | Question: I see rose isnt signing her posts now. Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:09:30 AM | | | | Tom wasn't a bad guy after all was he? | | | Question: 1. We don't really know if that was true, it's Bernie's claim.
2. He told his step-daughter she could see him in her dreams and we wonder if she does.
3. He just walked away.
4. No proof of what you say. No hiding of anything. All complete speculation.
5. No debt at all. She paid off house before turning it over to Becker.
She got 150,000 cash with no tax, coins, cash, stocks, a house and pool and her kids
6. Why did Bernie cause the fight the night before and wait until the end of the vacation? Who's fault?
Maybe years of cocaine on Bernie's part made her paranoid of everything?
Maybe she has a major mental disconnect, after all didn't she go to years of therapy?
Maybe some get depressed when they find out that they are looking their daughter and they have been cheated on the whole marriage and a bully is taking over their lives?
You are right about one thing, Tom wasn't such a bad guy. Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:14:15 AM | | | | Tom | | | Question: Maybe Tom wasn't such a bad guy.
Maybe it was his depression over the prospect of divorce.
Maybe it was from years of drug use.
Maybe it was some sort of mental disconnect.
But the fact remains that what he did was really bad.
He threatened to commit suicide if Bernie insisted on a divorce.
He told his daughter she would never see him again, except in her dreams.
He walked away and committed suicide.
He hid his body, preventing any resolution for the family.
He left his family with a mountain of business debts.
He did it on his daughter's birthday. Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 09:36:10 AM | | | | Back and back and back and back | | | Question: Nobody is saying Tom was innocent but he wasn't the horrible person you depict him to be.
He was a loving father and he wasn't a bad husband to Bernie.
He was gentle and kind and worked hard.
Many people collect guns. Also keep money and coins hidden. There are break-in's you know.
If he was reading magazines like you say there must be millions of people doing it since they are sold regularly.
He smoked pot but he didn't use cocaine. Bernie knows that but it sounds better to say he was trafficking everything. If he did in the old days, that is what was attractive to Bernie about him. He gave to her and that was her way "to get". Don't forget she lived with a bunch of guys, got pregnant, then married Mark then left him to go to live with Tom. She met Tom but cleaning her teeth. Wondering now how many did she sleep with doing that? Then after living with Tom she got a divorce to marry him. Then left Tom for Bill Becker again, then back to Tom then back to Bill Becker! Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 09:11:47 AM | | | | Angel | | | Question: And tom was an angel. Trafficking cocaine and marijuana. Cultivation of marijuana with intent to sell. Total paranoia about the us government failing and the lawless world that would ensue. Assault weapons loaded and ready.
Bernie, while having a past, was a totally different person in 1995. I was working with her at that time. The description above was current in 1995. Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 08:53:14 AM | | | | A slight correction | | | Question: It was Tom who checked out...walked away on his daughter's birthday to commit suicide....hid his own body....refused to allow any closure to his family.
Bernie, on the other hand, was left to raise two children...and, to her credit, did so very admirably under difficult conditions.
All you can do is throw stones.....Would you care to fill us in on the criminal history of the Stump family in Ohio? Or the drug charges that Tom was running from? Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 07:33:58 AM | | | | comment | | | Question: How convenient is was for the tide to be just right for the time Tom wanted. Coincidence? In this case everything seems to be answered in the favor of the Becker's and Tom planned it so perfect for them.
???????????????????????? Doubtful.
To do what the posted suggests seems to be someone who was angry not depressed. Someone in the state that they claim would not kill themselves like that.
Bernie was a drug addict, an adultery not to mention a jail bird married to a ex-con. She had kids with multiple people, not sure at times of the father and not to mention living with a bunch of men. Not the best reputation. Someone with this past and problems could very well do the same as they claim Tom did.
Easily. Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 07:16:47 AM | | | | Reality | | | Question: Despite all of your stupid questions, despite all your fabrications, despite all of your insipid attacks, despite your refusal to accept the word of the only three eyewitnesses, despite your rejection of the polygraph tests, despite you inability to produce any shred of credible evidence to the contrary ....the bottom line is this:
THE DETECTIVES GOT IT RIGHT -- TOM STUMP WALKED AWAY OF HIS OWN FREE WILL AND LIKELY COMMITTED SUICIDE.
Reality..........What a concept! Asked on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 06:47:08 AM | | |
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